On this episode of Turned Out A Punk, Damian gets to chat to Le Sera’s Katy Goodman about going from watching New Brunswick basement hardcore shows, to playing at Coachella in the Vivian Girls. Listen in as two discuss touring together, the low points of riding high on the indie hype bubble, and punk.
Also touched on in this episode:
-Trying to get into NoFX and accidentally getting into the Germs
-Seeing shows at Ridgewood Lodge
-Fletcher And the Sticky Wickets: the pre-Real Estate Cricket referencing ska band
-Interviewing Lars from Rancid for… nothing… or no reason… and not recording it.
-Missing out on Emo?
-The importance of the Gossip
-New Brunswick, New Jersey: the capital of New Jersey Hardcore
-No Way Records
-Meeting future bandmates because of their choice in socks
-Following the Tragedy, Forward, Warhead Tour deadhead-style to Chaos In Tejas
-The infamous Mark Pesci’s Marked Man stage dive
-Rolling solo to the Fucked Up Hidden World Weekend
-The pre-Vivian Girls bands: The Gutter and We’re Not Virgins
-Finding a bass in a basement
-Having to curse when talking about the Wipers
-The origins of the Vivain Girls name (it’s not a Fucked Up reference, DAMIAN!)
-Poison Idea: literally the best
-Vivian Girls as a Punk band
-Brooklyn Vegan and learning the hard way to never ever read the comments
-People coming to see you play just to hate you
-Lots of Coachella memories
-Some light Sam Smith discussion
La Sera on Singing Like a Child and Her Secret Album
“If Katy Goodman’s first group, Vivian Girls, embodied the spirit (if not the sound) of late-’70s Ramones — pretty, primitive guitar-based pop with a nihilistic edge — her third record as La Sera, Hour of the Dawn, is like late-’80s Ramones. A great singer skillfully executing hit melodies derived from ’60s girl groups, Goodman is backed by aggressive yet controlled guitar playing and slick production. The songs themselves cover a range of emotions with complexity and nuance that is so often lacking in mainstream pop, which gives the album a darker edge — like if California hardcore guitar hero Rikk Agnew’s post-Adolescents solo work had been collaboration with Belinda Carlisle.
Tobi Vail reached Goodman by phone to talk about Stephin Merritt, writing a secret record and her new album.”
Bonus: Pictures by Linda Flores: https://secure.flickr.com/photos/djlindalovely/tags/viviangirls/
Is Storm’s End a Game of Thrones reference? Also, are you all planning to announce any new concert dates soon? I would absolutely love to see you in Columbus, Ohio.
It is a Game of Thrones reference! When we made that song, I thought it sounded like an evil surf song, which would be perfect for the Ironborn.
Hey, thanks for coming out. Who is your musical inspiration? Do you have any non-musical inspirations?
I don’t know if I have ONE musical inspiration, but the first person that popped into my head was Jonathan Richman. As for my non-musical inspiration, I would say Marie Curie.
“In a little more than five years, Ali Koehler’s managed to do what some musicians spend their whole lives trying to do. Opened for Weezer? Check. Played on Letterman? You betcha. Toured in Tasmania? Crossed off the list. Started a band with Patty Schemel? Duh.
Since joining Vivian Girls in 2008, Koehler–who’s left her mark in Vivian Girls, Best Coast, and her new project, Upset–has experienced all the highs and lows that come with being on the road for much of the past few years. You name it, Koehler’s probably seen it, or at least been pretty damn close to it.
I caught up with her after Upset’s jaunt to SXSW to ask about tour plans, the finality of Vivian Girls’ last shows, and favorite bands. (…)”
Read the interview: http://sexbeatlondon.com/2014/04/02/ali-koehler-interview/
She might not be much for flashy costumes or wanky solos, but over the past seven years, Cassie Ramone (neé Grzymkowski) has become an increasingly influential figure on the national indie rock scene, a musician whose embrace of her imperfections is one of her greatest strengths. While indie culture often tries to squeeze female performers into one of a few archetypes—the golden-voiced nymph, the feminist warrior—Ramone’s musical persona resists easy categorization, sounding at turns strong and weak, happy and sad, melodic and noisy—an everyday guitar hero in scuffed-up Converse sneaks whose main superpower, besides writing catchy tunes, is being true to herself.”
The first night was at my favourite venue, Death By Audio, a perfect match from their DIY beginnings. That they decided to play here instead of a much larger venue, which they surely could have, definitely seemed like a treat to long-term fans.
Opening the night was Juan Wauters of The Beets. I’ve seen Juan on various bills over the last year and I think this was his best set (I’ve found the others hit and miss, truth be told). Maybe it was because I wasn’t standing around waiting endlessly for the flags and lightbulbs to get set up like normal and was enjoying a beer instead, or maybe playing solo as opposed to a two or three-piece strips the songs down in a more endearing way.”
“It’s not unfair to think that I’m currently surrounded by the biggest Vivian Girls fans in New York City, fans who know all the words to “Wild Eyes” and have crammed into Death By Audio on a Saturday night to watch what will be the band’s second-to-last show before breaking up. Even so, there’s a limit to their intensity—there’s movement and some mild moshing up front, but not really until the band directs the crowd to get on with it. “Feel free to dance,” bassist Katy Goodman says; “I want to see a circle pit!” singer Cassie Ramone follows. And lo, she does: the tension in the room is uncorked as fans start jostling into each other, with some crowdsurfing and even stage diving in sweaty repudiation of the frigid evening.”
“This weekend, The Vivian Girls play their very last shows ever. Their band was born in Brooklyn, so it’s fitting that they’re going to wrapping things up, there, too, with a pair of shows: one Saturday at Death By Audio and one Sunday at Baby’s All Right.
The Vivian Girls: Katy “Kickball Katy” Goodman, Cassie Ramone, and Ali Koehler (originally Frankie Rose) were a big part of Brooklyn’s now officially 100% dead DiY scene. Silly, punky, approachable, enjoyable, and strangely super appealing to young teenagers, the band was the absolute best of what Brooklyn had to offer in those days (2007 ~ 2010). The picture on their Wikipedia page is from Market Hotel, for god’s sake.”
Read the interview: http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2014/02/remembering_vivian_girls.php
[Photos courtesy of P Squared Photography]
Oh, the Vivian Girls. You know you’ve been around awhile when you have witnessed the entire life cycle of a band like this. It wasn’t that long ago, to us, that our then-young site was covering an up-and-coming all-female band at places like the East Village Radio Fest and some extremely random ToddP venues. Pretty soon, like any good little band that could, the Vivs were playing spots like Bowery Ballroom. They were loved, yet not universally so, and maybe that’s as clear a sign as any that they mattered. As so eloquently summed up in Jenn Pelly’s comprehensive Pitchfork piece, if you didn’t like the band because they were “lo fi”, if you didn’t like the band because they weren’t avant-garde or music school enough, well, that’s on you. The Vivs wrote good songs. They wrote songs that sounded good in the spaces where their people were, in shitty apartments and on shitty rented PAs and, yes, on those shitty white iPhone headphones, by then ubiquitous. In their moment, as an all-female guitar band, they broke ceilings, too.
Although Vivian Girls had been largely inactive since 2011, in January the Brooklyn/L.A.-based punk trio announced plans to officially break up. As Line of Best Fit points out, some footage from their second-to-last show, at Brooklyn DIY venue Death by Audio, has surfaced. Watch Vivian Girls play “All the Time” and “No” from their 2008 self-titled debut, below. “I’m not gonna cry!” bassist Katy Goodman said at the beginning.
Mixed with overcast guitar thrash and three-part harmonies, the whine of a speeding subway car sounds very cool. That much was clear after dark in Brooklyn on Independence Day of 2009. Vivian Girls were playing an abandoned lot beneath the buzzing JMZ line against a backdrop of graffitied brick and fireworks, one of the final acts at a two-day festival from the young local labels Captured Tracks and Woodsist. The lineup was scrawled on a slab of cardboard: rustic pop rippers Woods; a full-band take on Kurt Vile’s outsider folk; West Coast psych-rockers Thee Oh Sees; unassuming Jersey pop chillers Real Estate; a charcoal band that had practiced but once, Dum Dum Girls. The bar was set up on a table that looked like it had been plucked from the trash. This was the shambolic epitome of the bicoastal late-aughts noise pop scene. And, as I recall, it was scorchingly hot.
Read the full article: http://pitchfork.com/features/articles/9344-when-im-gone-why-vivian-girls-mattered/
Vivian Girls bid Farewell to L.A. with a final jam-packed performance at the Church on York | Grimy Goods
Vivian Girls bid us farewell this past Friday with a very special final performance at the Church on York in Highland Park. Colleen Green opened up the evening with a rad performance, per usual. Warming up the crowd with her catchy garage pop, fans seemed to really get into her grooves. She was a perfect appetizer for what would be an incredible main course. Vivian Girls blasted out a fierce farewell performance for their Los Angeles fans. The newly established Church on York had never been this packed. Making music since 2007, Vivian Girls’ performance was a bit emotional for fans and friends considering this was their final Los Angeles performance. The Girls and the crowd went out with bang. With tons of musicians, fans and industry peep amongst the audience — everyone cut loose and danced, stage-dived, crowd-surfed and pretty much did everything possible to show their devotion to the Vivian Girls. Making their fans even happier, Vivian Girls came out soon after their set to take photos with fans and do signings.
Vivian Girls put on one hell-of-a farewell performance, and damn was it packed!
Check the pictures: http://www.grimygoods.com/2014/02/17/photos-review-vivian-girls-church-on-york/
The Vivian Girls’ Final Show in L.A.! | West Coast Sound | Los Angeles | Los Angeles News and Events | LA Weekly
By Art Tavana Mon, Feb 17, 2014
Vivian Girls, Colleen Green, Aquadolls
The Church on York
February 14, 2014
As Vivian Girls departed the stage, bidding farewell after their final show in L.A., The Church on York was covered in a bed of crushed rose petals and heart-shaped candy. It was as if a hand grenade had exploded in a flower shop.
It was Valentine’s Day and the church was decorated like an enchanted 1950s prom; the white decorations and blinking red roses glowed behind heavy doses of artificial fog. (Don’t forget all the sexual tension.) But there was nothing syrupy about the concert, where a lunatic fringe of daredevil fans violated a church altar to say they were there, one last time, to see the Vivian Girls.
Six years after the release of their game-changing debut LP, guitarist Cassie Ramone, drummer Ali Koehler, and bassist Kickball Katy announced their breakup in January. What brought it on? One would imagine that a lack of ambition – their most endearing quality – and side projects by each member. During their time, the specific retro sound they pioneered was taken on by the more ambitious and popular Dum Dum Girls and Best Coast.
But it was the Vivian Girls who started it all in a Brooklyn loft in 2007, when Cassie Ramone and Frankie Rose (their original drummer), exchanged phone numbers on a tortilla chip. Their three-part girl group, with their harmonies and fuzzy guitars, channeled Spector’s wall of sound, with the simplicity of the Ramones – a sound you can hear in the L.A. indie scene with Bleached, Peach Kelli Pop, Aquadolls, and countless others influenced by the Vivian Girls.
Read the full article with pictures: http://www.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2014/02/17/vivian-girls-the-church-on-york-21414?showFullText=true
Friday 14 February 2014
Vivian Girls, The Aquadolls, DJ Allison Wolfe
The Church on York, 4904 York Blvd, Los Angeles, CA
8pm – 10$ – all ages : http://thechurchonyork.com/site/event/vivian-girls-%E2%88%9E%E2%88%9Egoodbye-show%E2%88%9E%E2%88%9E/
Saturday 1 March 2014
Vivian Girls, Waxahatchee, Juan Wauters (of the Beets)
Death by Audio, 49 S 2nd St, Brooklyn, NY
8pm – all ages : http://www.entertainment4every1.net/shows/
SOLD OUT (in under 2 hours)
Sunday 2 March 2014
Vivian Girls, Shellshag, Potty Mouth
8pm – 10$ – all ages : http://babysallright.com/new-events/2014/3/2/vivian-girls-sold-out?view=calendar
“Our Death by Audio show sold out in under 2 hours! Therefore, we are announcing a 2nd NYC show at Baby’s All Right! http://www.ticketfly.com/purchase/event/478353“
Brooklyn, New York, March 2007: we started making music together and became what we know as Vivian Girls. It’s been a long and crazy journey in the seven years since, and we feel as though the time has finally come to let our band rest in peace. It’s been an experience that we’ll look back on and cherish and we’d like to thank you for sharing it with us. We have had such an amazing time being a band, touring the world, releasing records and meeting all of you.
We’ve booked some ALL AGES shows as a goodbye. The first will be on February 14th at The Church on York in LA. The second will be on March 1st at Death by Audio in Brooklyn.
Here is a TICKET LINK for the LA Church show:
Here is a TICKET LINK for the NYC Death by Audio show:
Feel free to follow us on Twitter for updates in our other pursuits:
@cassieramone @iamkatygoodman @hernameisali
Thank you to everyone who has helped us along the way, everyone
who has come to our shows, bought our records and supported us, and
everyone we will meet in the future.
“Remember the whole Pixies/Breeders/Belly/Throwing Muses web of bands many years back? Or, more recently, the Wolf Parade/Sunset Rubdown/Frog Eyes/Handsome Furs/Divine Fits band sprawl? And let’s not even get into Broken Social Scene. Well, none of these band associations holds a candle to Vivian Girls and the myriad bands, collaborations, side projects and what-have-yous that spring from the New York noise pop band. In light of recent release from onetime-Vivian Frankie Rose and the upcoming release by Vivian girl Ali Koehler in Upset, I’ve attempted to make a Vivian Girls tree for y’all. I’m sure I missed like 20 bands, let me know if I have!”
Read the full article: http://www.amoeba.com/blog/2013/10/pst/six-degrees-of-vivian-girls.html
- Walking Alone At Night
- Surfin Away
- Wild Eyes
- The Desert
- Can’t get over you
- Lake House
- Out for the sun
- The end
- Second date
- Never see me again
- Before I start to cry
- When I’m gone
- Tell the world
- My baby wants me dead
Bonus: [Pictures by WhiskeyPete]